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  • kminkeller
    03-09 02:49 PM
    Completely valid question ivgclive. Yes it has been more than 3 years that I had EAD. Only fear that I have right now is for EAD you need to have a job at all times in case I get an RFE or any kind of notice to prove that I am working on similar job. In this economy you never know what is going to happen. You have a job now and you may not have it later. That is what concerns me a lot coz I have a family here and bought a house and other responsibilities. So I was hoping porting to EB2 was not that long process from Labor, I140 then I485. and that is why I needed to know if I need H1 to apply for Labor on EB2.

    BTW is there a chance USCIS can reject my application in case I don't have my job? If they cannot reject my application then I am fine with just EAD until i get my GC.

    Thanks.




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  • clif
    06-12 07:56 AM
    If an employer fires an employee and continues to give severance pay for a couple of months, do they usually cancel H1B immediately or wait for the period of severance pay before cancelling H1B?

    Hi,

    One of my friends got fired from a company and the company made him to sign a document that he was resigning. This guy somehow signed it so that he could get his salary. The employer eventually paid him the salary after signing the resignation document.

    Few questions about his H1B visa.

    1. How many days can he legally stay in the US before he finds one more job gets new H1B.

    2. Can he transfer his H1B visa to a new company or does he need to apply for a new H1B visa (which is within the cap)?

    3. Incase if he doesn't find a job within the legally permitted time, what are his options apart from going back?

    4. Will he have any problem when he tries to transfer his H1B after the legally permitted time?


    I would really appreciate if anyone can please help me with this questions.

    Thank you very much!




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  • piyu7444
    05-08 02:52 PM
    Thank you senk1s & gccovet. Have added some Green's to both of you !




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  • snowcatcher
    01-29 07:41 PM
    Hello all, If you are from Texas please reply to this thread to get together and activate our state chapter. Any ideas are welcome. So please post to this thread and see how we can contribute/Volunteer to make IV stronger.
    Thank you



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  • seeking_GC
    07-19 03:35 PM
    Thanks for ur reply..anyone else has any input on this??




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  • seekerofpeace
    09-13 09:38 AM
    Folks,
    I am really amazed to see the verbal war of words between these two artificially created groups aka the lines of "Divide and Rule" policy by the erstwhile masters of our country...

    I can understand the feelings but the profanity and the language used won't lead us anywhere.

    Frustration is the only common thing among the EBI applicants...some more some less...

    I know of a lot of EB2s like me who came to this country for higher studies more than a decade back and got delayed in filing for their residency and had to suffer...While many who came with a job here and filed using EB3 then, have their parents as residents now....

    Why is there no anger towards the many L1 managers who get residency through EB1.without much educational qualifications and forget about national interest waiver...I know a few, who came in 2006 and are residents within a year or so....

    I also saw many of my friends through unfair labor substitutions got ahead of me unfairly and are now citizens...

    Bottomline is people won't apply in a particular category unless they think it is best in their interests...In this economy most companies are tightening their purse.....it is a common fact that 90% of EB I applicants are software engineers.the demand of which will wane over the years in the immediate future and next generation technology demand will increase aka green and biotech....and much water has flowed in Mississipi since the days of Y2K when even people with fraud degrees and vague backgrounds came here and flourished......

    The infighting reminds me of the crab story in which of all the baskets of various sea animals/fishes in a fish market the only basket whose lid was open was one with crabs...a buyer when enquired the uniqueness of that crab basket was promptly told by the seller that in this basket if any crab wants to go out and be free all the other crabs will join and pull it back to the basket so I don't have to worry.......

    Let's not be these crabs....I am sure there exists common grounds in IV otherwise if this continues I am sure there will be a vertical split in IV...between EB2 and EBI..and ROW will laugh at us.........

    SoP



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  • DDLMODES
    10-09 07:47 PM
    Service request ?? What is that ??

    Anyway, I understand that many people are in the same situation and that makes it a bit better. I will wait... Thanks for the replies...

    Its just scary that after all these years they might consider the case abandoned if you don't receive the damn FP letter. Some guys didn't even get the receipts yet. I feel for those...

    P.S.: Anybody got the case closed because they missed the FP appointment ? Is there a way to reopen it ?

    Thanks again guys !




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  • BMS1
    08-21 12:06 PM
    Congrats.

    Which service center did you applied to. I have similar PD (8/22/05) and EB2 NIW at TSC.

    Thanks. Applied at VSC and got transferred to TSC. Actually my PD was 09/29/2005.



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  • smileyslimey
    11-30 09:47 AM
    Thanks, honge_kamyaab.
    Your point is well taken.
    But, my doubt is on the premise that a new H1-B can be obtained based on a previous approved I-140 or Labor Cert. However, if I am changing industries, my job function and description are both changing. In that case, can I use the fact that I had an I-140 from a previous employer in a different industry for a new H1?
    Appreciate your help.
    Regards.




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  • indianabacklog
    03-17 07:47 AM
    The detail is in the advert for the position. It is very specific in its requirements and you do not match them.

    I was in exactly this position in 2002 and the appeal such as you suggest as second option failed and wasted six months.

    I had to start the entire process again. The most frustrating part for me was the department of labor had assisted my employer with the advert and the alteration they made to the advert was the thing that screwed me in the end.

    By virtue of the PERM system now you are really not going to lose all that much on your priority date and you could have another I140 filed before any appeal is even dealt with.



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  • boldm28
    08-14 10:51 AM
    this is in response to some who say what if India does this and that ...the point is that India will do nothing. In general we have passive leaders and our PM is a great example of that - if it was done against china then immediately there would have retaliation. in some ways it is good if it stops the misuse ...I guess the biggest losers in this are the lawyers - more lawyer shops will close down

    you got it dude .. just imagine , we are trying to dictate laws in some other country and blame law makers in the US ( senators , congressmen) , but all this things happen in India , we just accept the fact and move on .. so just accept the fact and move on , we cant do anything about it , as far as politicians are concerned in India , they do what they want classic eg is Kalmadi who has been taking bribes from God know when , you guys know rite
    ViTESSE ( maruti dealeship) is own by Kalmadi's . I can go on and on but dont want to clog the forums




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  • greenguru
    06-28 03:41 PM
    I checked on murthy site, what is there ?



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  • raj2007
    06-17 02:32 AM
    I am planning to apply for both Canadian Permanent Residency and US green card next month. Assuming that I get my Canadian Permanent Residency and US Greencard after two years, what options do I have to maintain the permanent resident status in both countries, so that I am eligible to apply for citizenship in both countries.

    Some say that showing proof of residence in both countries, commuting between the countries for work (Windsor-Canada and Detroit-US) and paying taxes in both countries would suffice.

    Please guide me on this.

    How can you ride on 2 horses?:)
    Canada needs 3yr PR for citizenship while US needs 5. I feel it wil be issue while border crossing. US is very strict and they may take GC away.Take canadian citizenship first and then apply here. Thay way you can have both.




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  • DSLStart
    03-18 10:27 AM
    Plus, your 485 filing receipt, marriage certificate, filing fees check.
    No need to do through lawyer, just fill and print forms, attach documents and mail certified.

    Can someone who has added his/her spouse please provide with a list of documents required to file spouse i-485 after primary has been filed? Can we collect a list? There seem to be a lot of people in this situation.

    Here is what I think is required

    I-485 - Adjustment
    G-325A - Biographic Info
    I-134 - Affidavit of support
    I-765 - EAD
    I-131 - Advance Parole
    I-693 - Medical Exam

    What else is required? Please add to the list. Also, has anyone done this on their own?

    TIA



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  • GCaspirations
    10-02 12:08 PM
    My wife has a non-working SSN. Will she need to convert it (or apply for a new SSN) to working SSN once she starts working persuant to EAD?

    You do not have to apply for new SSN but do the following taken from SSA website:

    If your work eligibility has changed or if have become a U.S. citizen, you must apply for a replacement card. Your replacement card will no longer read “Not Valid for Employment,” but you will retain the same Social Security number.

    To get a replacement card:

    Complete an Application For A Social Security Card (Form SS-5); and
    Show us documents proving your:
    Immigration status;
    Work eligibility; and
    Identity.
    Take (or mail) your completed application and documents to your local Social Security office.
    All documents must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. We cannot accept photocopies or notarized copies of documents.

    We will mail your number and card as soon as we have all of your information and have verified your documents.
    For details about the type of evidence you must provide, see Social Security Numbers For Noncitizens (Publication No. 05-10096) or Documents You Need for a Social Security Card.




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  • CantLeaveAmerica
    04-10 09:27 PM
    CantLeaveAmerica

    The officer asked several questions

    Where do I work
    What is my job title
    Am I married
    Do I have Kids
    What is my current address and proof of it.
    What is my wedding date
    Hav I travelled out of USA from last entry
    Did I ever get any money in form of help from Immigration
    Checked my pay chq (current) and w-2 for 2007.
    Asked for Employment verification letter
    Asked to show I 94 card

    Asked all the questions which I guess are on the 485 form, the questions are generally not relevant to people like us: Examples are below

    Do I have any illegal kids (hahaha)
    Was I ever involved with any terrorist org
    Have I ever tried to being in ilegals to USA
    Have I ever worked as a Prostitute (lol)

    In particular the only question which surprised me was when I was asked to descirbe what my job responsibilities are....I was prepared for it and the officer was matching it with the job description used for my PERM

    The officer was very nice and helpful. I got done in like 20-25 min and she said that the case is approvable. We just need to wait for the Visa #.

    Hope this helps people out here........Good Luck ALL.

    Thanks Piyu7444...did they ask for all paystubs of previous years or were they only interested in the current paystub as mentioned by you?
    Also, do the job responsibilities have to match exactly word4word as in LC? Or can I explain to similar extent?



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  • rani77
    02-06 07:30 PM
    arjun007
    Did u surrender your I 94s when leaving for Canada???
    Also if you did ,did the POE officer issue you a new I 94 when you re entered US??
    I am asking because i have heard different verisons when u visit canada
    Please let me know ,we might be planning a trip to Canada soon
    and our H1 stamp is expired so we might go for stamping.
    Also please post about your canada visa details.
    Thx




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  • rangakutta
    02-10 11:24 AM
    Hi ,

    I need help !!!! I am a Electrical Engineering , but I joined a Indian consultant and my H1b is approved. I am working as system admin for past 2 years. I want to apply my GC in EB2 catogory.. Can some 1 advise me what to do or how to proceed with this. I am very much confused because I am not so comfortable with EB3.

    Please advise !!!!!!!!

    Thanks




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  • gc03
    12-08 08:58 AM
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    Washington Office:
    393 Russell Senate Office Building
    Washington, D.C. 20510-2904
    Phone: (202) 224-3324
    Fax: (202) 224-4952

    Main District Office:
    125 N. Main St.
    Concord, NH 03301
    Phone: (603) 225-7115
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    Washington Office:
    111 Russell Senate Office Building
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    Phone: (202) 224-2841
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    Phone: (603) 647-7500
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    franklin
    07-21 03:14 PM
    Please don't dilute IV's group efforts

    There are 2 outstanding action items - have you completed them?




    Ramba
    05-01 11:21 AM
    If you are 100% sure that your old 140 was not revoked by your previous employer, it can be useful in 2 ways. Contact your old employer to verify that still they have job for you as per the 140. If so, file new 485 with that 140 as it has very old PD. As you might have missed the finger printing in 2002, your previous 485 might have been denied. But 140 is still vaild for indefinite period.

    If your old employer is not offering a job to file new 485, start new GC process with your new employer and port your priority date from your old approved 140.



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